Jul 21, 2008. The methods that Hal Houle teaches are the most exact and precise ways to aim that I have ever seen. . Hal Houle learned that through CTE a player can quickly tap into the purity of aiming. The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result. But he said he understood the concept, so I gave him the okay. Hal Houle and I talked many times over the past few years and I regret not having the urge to learn more about CTE from him. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. Began instructing pool in 1945. Joey: But what is your system to aim? Efren: I aim for pocket. If you Google search, pro one billiards aiming system you will get a lot of information. he did the same thing to hal houle. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. you have nothing to lose. . So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. . By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. Hal Houle changed my life. I have been playing pool lately with a older gentlemen, who has owned numerous pool rooms over the years in the San Jose area. By: Search Advanced search…23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called Rec. Hal Houle/Family I think Hal is and was a great teacher- I have only learned over the phone- his cte stuff. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be teaching one of Hal. Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. And who would have been the first to do it? YOU GUESSED IT IF YOU SAID PAT JOHNSON, who was the first in 1997 to go after Hal Houle on RSB and then other users. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. None of them were related to math and geometry. Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. I am not writing for you. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Aiming ConversationHal Houle (rhymes with pool) gave his knowledge free of charge and welcomed anyone to call him at any time to learn more about his aiming systems. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. Literally the week before Hal sought me out I spent several hours on the table with my friend Chris McDaniel working on a. . . He has many system so make sure it is the wright one before you try to make a joke out of him. He truly was one of a kind who made pool his lifetime achievement in so many ways. Search titles only. My bad. Jan 16, 2020. ) A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. you have nothing to lose. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. Freddie <~~~ like Farmer’s Insurance . . Hal was not a great teacher, and did not really understand how or why most of the systems worked. I keep reading the term 'feel' player - a feel player is simply a player who started with an aiming system and used it long enough. Christopher lives on the same street as the following people: Roshelly Aviles · Susan M Heffelfinger · Anne E Vonneida · Hal Houle · Julia B Houle · Andrea J Partridge · David A Partridge · K Partridge · Sonia S Houle · Paula M Santos · Dana M Hackman · Trevor L Hackman · Scott Morgan · Mark E Barowski · Ann M Polukis · Michele M. He showed me quite a bit about pool. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. Search titles only. Instruction & Ask the pros. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. . Hal called it his three angle document. i teach professional aiming systems. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". . (dont worry im not bragging, i still miss cuts like its no ones buisness) The reason for this is early on, someone told me if the shot is straight in. I found you to have searched out from Hal Houle(my friend and mentor) along with several others and tried to combine their theories on aiming into one nice system of teaching aiming. 12,478. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. What's this fixation with aiming? It's a personal thing. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. Jul 16, 2008 #9 Hal, I've heard you are open to describe your aiming system on the phone but don't go away with it written. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. JoeyInCali Maker of. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. If you can run all 15, more power to you. And I would have continued to skip them if Hal Houle hadn't asked me to meet him in Denver and graciously donated some of his time to teach me some of methods. Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. Harold Houle, now 85, said the time he spent with Greenleaf came during the late 1940s, or possibly in 1950. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. What they have figured out works and for some reason that bothers you. Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. View more. A chat with Master Instructor Stan Shuffett today reveals this :thumbup2:: Stan says. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. I hoped that he would chime in and help explain away the apparent dilemma. . it's kinda funny though. It's great that Stan has been able to get CTE even farther. Why are you so obsessed with me, PJ? Hal was the only pool player in his family tree and the community here on AZB probably knows more about his pool life, adventures and accomplishments than they do, so Sunny asked if I would ask the members here to post their stories about Hal so they can be read at his funeral. cte doubters and all the other ways to make a ball WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE to. Place the bridge hand down with the cue along this line. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK. . . Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. He contacted many people simply to give them a tip on aiming, the stroke, or other subjects. . Instruction & Ask the pros. I lived in Greeley, about an hour away from Denver at the time. A. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. . No, it's because their only target is and has been CTE, Hal Houle, and now Stan which started 18 years ago. . When I first learned of Hal Houle, I immediately sought him out because I heard he was a very knowledgeable man. "3-point" or "ball fractions" system. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Or at least completely new to wanting to be a damn good player. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. Was great to hear his stories. As you now know, it's as simple as simple can be just like Shishkabob created by Hal Houle decades ago. . Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. Hal Houle has many systems, so you start from a false premise. A. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. Hal Houle. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. I just. It can't get any more center pocket than that. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System by Billiards Forum Editor's Desk | Sep 30, 2014 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards New Post - Hal Houle Point and Pivot SystemA new post has been published titled "Hal Houle Point and Pivot System". . Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. Subsequent phone calls continued to develop a hunger for more information about CTE and as Hal's health continued to decline, Stan was forced to do his own study on CTE. If the graph below actually represents the variety of. Q. It is absolutely connected. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. Instruction & Ask the pros. Hal, what he created, and those who followed will live forever. EXACTLY WHAT is the Supposed Phenomenon for Center to Edge 'Aiming'. halhoule AzB Silver Member. Yes, the process is VISUAL and pivot based with VERY strong math and geometric support. . Search titles only. Was great to hear his stories. by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. 5 years ago. I just wanted to emphasize to some of the open minded around here that Houle was dead on the money with his diagnosis for this aiming thing and that old 'fraction thing' of Mosconi's has long been dead in the water. & Mrs. I try to use the aim & pivot method which goes like aim with the cue stick somewhere aside of the cue ball center to the contact point or the edge of the object ball and then pivot (only with the back hand) to the middle of the cue ball. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. it's magic. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. If there were 10. As far as systems go, its as good as any, and an excellent place to start. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. Hal was a veteran of the U. The 15 - 30 - and 45. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. i teach professional aiming systems. His best results are winning a stage in. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. . Also, now in effect, all. Here is a description of an early version of CTE taught by Hal Houle: For a “thick hit” (a small cut angle, less than about 15°) to the left: Align the cue 1 tip to the right of the CB center through the right edge of the OB. He certainly was a tireless educator and a nice man. My question is greenleaf won all his championships on a five by ten and mosconis. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. Well beyond the life of the lemming tribe. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. S. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. After much consideration, I have made a business decision to indefinitely postpone the creation of a CTE/PRO ONE video. . . " Meeting Hal made me addicted to information. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. Instruction & Ask the pros. I doubt that Stan's defining and refining will change any of that no matter how exact CTE/Pro One is. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. By: Search Advanced search…In your best interpretation of a professional pool player or professional instructor, PLEASE DEFINE FEEL IN AIMING. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. People like Hal Houle and Ron Vitello and Gene are always going to have negative people trying to tear. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. Aiming ConversationThanks to another member for sending a PM to me with this system he found on the internet called "Splitting The Difference". The main reason why CTE is COMPLETE BULLSHIT (and, I’m sure, made up as somebody’s joke to show how dumb people are), is that there’s no discussion in it. I don't know why and frankly I. Was great to hear his stories. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool. poolguppy AzB Silver Member. ”. Stan's Truth series illuminates the secrets of CTE that Hal Houle purposefully failed to provide when he first discussed this aiming system. Well, It looks like the moderators moved the "How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS)" thread to the "Aiming Conversation" forum. Without having tried this method on the table I want to acknowledge the spirit of innovation that exists that motivates players to run with concept. I was just wondering what aiming systems are geometrically correct? I've been looking into different aiming systems lately because I think it might be. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. Hal Houle I totally agree. S. Search titles only. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. If anybody isn't convinced about their motivations at this point spanning almost 2 decades, they either have blinders on or are a part of the Johnson/Figueroa gang. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. S. . He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. ” In TP A. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. This is just what I've heard. )From the very first ball i hit with Hal Houle on the other end of the phone . If there were 10. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. I use Hal Houle's "3 aim line" method, which I use CTE as a double check to see if I'm aligned right. People think they know more than they do - and they act like cyber bullies. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. Efren: Oh, aim. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. There is no way in this universe that Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett and the countless other instructors teaching objective aiming methods created non-working purely psychological mind tricks just to mess with your sense of order. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. A few are not pleasant from those that do not. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Vahmurka. I haven't seen any testimonials lately and I got to wondering how Stan's facebook page (aka the impenetrable fortress of solitude) was doing. He said Hal Houle wants to meet you today. That's going to change. There is an aiming system called "CTE" (center to edge) originally conceived by Hal Houle. Both of these men are right. . Recently, I've started playing more and. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. Recognizing. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Search titles only. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. . I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. Still doing it. S. . . Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. AND ACCURATE. REP to you dave. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. . Instruction & Ask the pros. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. So the non-users consider that false advertisement. By: Search Advanced search…Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. Stan and Landon Shuffett took an interest in Hal's CTE and they both met and studied with Hal. Share your videos with friends, family, and the worldHal Houle would have been so very proud, and I myself am proud for you and Hal. . #2. Stan has spent the last 15 years learning those secrets and has explained them. Most of the people that have learned one or more of his systems do not give out much info, as he did/does not want them. It was posted here about 6. And he's had an internet woody on ever since trying to discredit anyone that teaches or promotes any aiming system that is based off of Hal's. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. By: Search Advanced search…We all need to practice our aiming as much as possible - that's how we get good at it. Nothing any more complicated than those 3 lines. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. Silver Member. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. It was posted here about 6. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. I didnt locate the photo until the first editions were already printed. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. #2. After watching multiple. Joey: You know, Hal Houle's center to edge aiming system? Efren: Oh, my english. I said Hal who? He said Hal Houle, the aiming guy from RSB. Silver Member. Yes. Hal Houle was a great man that changed the way I see the game of pool. ) I will be more than happy. Hal helped so many people over the years never asking for a dime for his time. Daughter of the late Anton and Elizabeth Heinsen. Problem is, he had to stand there and correct me on every shot because I just didn't get it. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. Notable people with the surname include: David Houle (biologist), evolutionary biologist David Houle (futurist) (born 1948), futurist and author Dave Houle,. . Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. From the very first ball i. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. I have been using it for a few years with very good results. hal houle. . I think Hal was largely correct in that assessment. By: Search Advanced search…Instruction & Ask the pros. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Was great to hear his stories. Stan's overall knowledge and understanding of pool is off the charts. i teach professional aiming systems. Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. View more. . Teach professionals, very advanced players, and road money players. By: Search Advanced search…That obviously changes the point of contact along the NISL, which in turn results in a different angle after contact. It's reduced so much that it literally becomes point and shoot with no. Search titles only. A. We identified 117 records related to "Paul Houle" in the state of Florida. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. Dave has CTE on his web-site, also Hal Houle's 3-angle system. Sep 17, 2014 #11The National Billiard Academy is the only school authorized to teach the specialized Aiming Systems of Hal Houle. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. I personally used it for several years before Hal taught me a version of CTE. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. ALL of Hal Houle's systems had the exact same foundation. So no, not playing the victim at all. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. It has NO 7 fractions along the face of the OB. hal houle. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. Jamie Ferrel - Perfect Aim as reported by Joey A. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. . My name is Hal Houle. add another ball that can be used with. Hal Houle was the first that I heard of that was teaching it, and I believe it was his system. M is a visual aiming method. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. And in fact I do credit Hal Houle and Stan and everyone working on objective aiming for keeping me interested in playing. Stan Shuffett. Please take a look and let me know if you can think of any important terms or phrases not included. . By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. CTE PRO. I realized. Directly quoting Mr. 1/4, 1/2, center and maybe edge to edge. Search titles only. . If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. 4. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate of the Sailor's system only much less detailed and much less comprehensive. #1. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. In light of DCP's thread, I'm curious to what everyone thinks about what realistic goals a player who is serious about the game should set? And also a. . What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. Barbara Houle. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. M is a visual aiming method. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. These were all results of his own thought experiments and practical applications on the table. Back in Greenville SC for a few weeks and I am offering one on one lessons in my shop at my home on a 4 1/2 by 9 Diamond Pool table with 4 3/8 pockets and. By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. This method may not be for everyone, as it takes an analytical mind to wrap your head around. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. Search titles only. A and C are the object ball quarters. . It's the method, not the final position. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. . Wouldn't be. . Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. Silver Member. There is nothing on Earth Stan or Hal Houle could have done without getting blasted for one thing or another. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. By: Search Advanced search…Hal houle is the creator of this system. ”. Stan Shuffett entered the picture a week ago or so and invited to teach me his CTE/Pro One Aiming System. add another ball that can be used with. When I learned this from Hal over a decade ago, I started experimenting with a center of the CB placement pivoting to.